Apple remains Buffett's biggest public stock holding, but his thesis about its moat faces questions (2024)

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Berkshire Hathaway's Warren Buffett was still using a flip phone as late as 2020, four years after his investment behemoth started amassing a huge stake in the company that makes iPhones.

"I don't understand the phone at all, but I do understand consumer behavior," Buffett said last year at Berkshire's annual shareholder meeting in Omaha, Nebraska.

He's emerged in recent years as one of Apple's top evangelists.

At the end of 2023, Berkshire owned about 6% of Apple, a stake worth $174 billion at the time, or about 40% of the conglomerate's total value. That's about four times bigger than Berkshire's second-biggest public stock holding, Bank of America, and makes the company the No. 2 Apple shareholder, behind only Vanguard.

As Berkshire investors and fanboys of the 93-year-old Buffett flood Omaha this weekend for the 2024 annual meeting, Apple is likely to be a hot topic of discussion. The tech giant on Thursday reported a 10% year-over-year decline in iPhone sales, leading to a 4% drop in total revenue. But the stock had its best day since late 2022 on Friday due largely to a $110 billion stock buyback plan and increased margins that result from a growing services business.

The bet on Apple and CEO Tim Cook has paid off handsomely for Buffett, who said in 2022 that the cost of Berkshire's Apple stake was only $31 billion. His firm is up almost 620% on its investment since the start of 2016.

Despite being a self-described Luddite, Buffett has long had a coherent non-techie thesis for loving Apple. He's seen how devoted Apple users are to their devices, and has viewed the iPhone as an extraordinary product that could keep its customers spending inside the Apple ecosystem. He calls it a moat, one of his favorite words for describing his preferred businesses.

"Apple has a position with consumers that they're paying $1,500 or whatever it may be for a phone, and these same people pay $35,000 for a second car," Buffett said at last year's meeting. "And if they had to give up their second car or give up their iPhone, they'd give up their second car!"

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Data is in his favor. According to a study from Consumer Intelligence Research Partners, Apple benefits from 94% customer loyalty, meaning that nine out of 10 current U.S. iPhone owners choose another iPhone when buying a new device.

Buffett also has hailed Apple's ability to return billions of dollars to shareholders annually through share buybacks and dividends, a capital allocation strategy for which the billionaire investor may have himself to thank. When the Apple CEO was asked in a 2016 interview with The Washington Post who he turns to for advice at pivotal moments, Cook offered up a story about his relationship with Buffett.

"When I was going through [the question of] what should we do on returning cash to shareholders, I thought who could really give us great advice here? Who wouldn't have a bias?" Cook said. "So I called upWarren Buffett. I thought he's the natural person."

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Apple has shown its appreciation for the Oracle of Omaha in other ways.

In 2019, the company published an original iPhone game called "Warren Buffett's Paper Wizard" in which a paperboy bikes from Omaha to Apple's hometown of Cupertino, California.

But with Apple's business having declined in size in five of the past six quarters and with the company expecting just low single-digit growth in the current quarter, Buffett may face questions this weekend at the shareholder meeting about whether he still sees the same power in the moat, particularly with regulatory pressures building around tech's mega-cap companies.

Buffett trimmed his stake in Apple late last year, though only by about 1%. Even after Friday's rally, the stock is down 3.8% in 2024, while the S&P 500 is up 7.5%.

'Very, very, very locked in'

Berkshire's initial foray into Apple in 2016 was not Buffett's idea. Rather, the investment was led by Ted Weschler, one of his top deputies, and was seen as a passing of the torch to the next generation of Berkshire investment managers.

But the following year, Berkshire started purchasing even more Apple shares, and Buffett began talking it up. He said he liked the stock and the company's "sticky" product, although he didn't use it.

In 2018, he said Apple users are "very, very, very locked in, at least psychologically and mentally" to the product and the ecosystem.

"Apple has an extraordinary consumer franchise," he said.

At last year's annual meeting, when asked how Berkshire can defend having Apple make up so much of its public portfolio, Buffett said, "It just happens to be a better business than any we own." He also hailed Cook, calling him one of the "best managers in the world."

A number Apple likes to use to tout the health of its business, despite the declining revenue, is "2.2 billion." That's how many devices the company says are currently in use and points to the massive customer base available as Apple rolls out new subscription services.

"Once customers get into the ecosystem, they don't leave. So it's not a speculative tech play," said Dan Eye, chief investment officer at Fort Pitt Capital Group, which owns Apple shares. "It's kind of more like an annuity and I think that's what Warren Buffett really sees as well."

In addition to the drop in revenue, Apple faces new challenges from regulations and weak overseas markets, as well as from Microsoft and Google's advancements in artificial intelligence. For regulators, the concern surrounds the very moat that Buffett finds so attractive, and whether it gives the company monopolistic control in the smartphone market.

The U.S. government in March alleged that Apple designs its business to keep customers locked in. The Department of Justice's lawsuit claimed that products like Apple Card, the Apple Arcade game subscription, iMessage and Apple Watch work best or only with an iPhone, creating illegal barriers to competition and making it harder for consumers to switch when it's time for an upgrade.

However, the litigation is expected to take years, pushing any potential penalties to Apple and its products well into the future. In the meantime, there's no sign that the iPhone is becoming less important as new devices like virtual reality goggles have found only niche audiences, while consumer AI products have failed to take off.

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Buffett hasn't voiced his view publicly on Apple's regulatory hurdles, and this will be the first opportunity for investors to ask him about the issue since the DOJ's lawsuit. But Buffett knows a little something about regulation — two markets where he's most active are railroads and insurance.

In a note to clients earlier this month, Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi didn't go deep on regulatory concerns, but mentioned that he doesn't believe the DOJ suit will "seriously threaten" the strength of Apple's ecosystem. He also said that following Buffett's lead on getting in and out of Apple is a solid strategy for making money.

"Despite his reputation as a long term buy and hold investor, Warren Buffett has been remarkably disciplined at adding to his Apple position when it is relatively cheap and trimming when it is relatively expensive," Sacconaghi wrote. He encouraged investors to "be like Buffett."

More money back

Odds are that Buffett was thrilled with Apple's announcement this week regarding its expanded repurchase program. It's a practice he's long adored.

"When I buy Apple, I know that Apple is going to repurchase a lot of shares," he said in 2018.

And he likes to note how buybacks result in getting a bigger stake in the company without buying more shares.

"The math of repurchases grinds away slowly, but can be powerful over time," Buffett said in 2021.

Apple also increased its dividend by 4%, and signaled that it would continue to lift it annually.

Buffett was effusive about the tech giant's capital-return strategy at the conglomerate's annual meeting last year, pointing out that it helped Berkshire own a bigger piece of the pie. Unlike insurance company Geico and homebuilder Clayton Homes, which his firm owns in their entirety, Berkshire can continue to increase its stake in Apple, a fact he reminded investors of at the meeting.

"The good thing about Apple is that we can go up," Buffett said.

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FAQs

What does Warren Buffett say about Apple stock? ›

"When I buy Apple, I know that Apple is going to repurchase a lot of shares," he said in 2018. And he likes to note how buybacks result in getting a bigger stake in the company without buying more shares. "The math of repurchases grinds away slowly, but can be powerful over time," Buffett said in 2021.

Why does Berkshire hold so much Apple? ›

Buffett became a big fan of Apple after one of his investing managers Ted Weschler or Todd Combs convinced him to buy the stock years ago. Buffett even called the tech giant his second-most important business after Berkshire's cluster of insurers.

Does Apple have a moat? ›

Apple Inc. has built a competitive business moat, often referred to as a competitive advantage or a sustainable competitive advantage, through a combination of factors. These factors have helped the company maintain its market leadership, profitability, and customer loyalty over the years.

How much did Warren Buffett lose on Apple stock? ›

In the first quarter, Berkshire dumped over 116 million shares of Apple, with an estimated value of over $21 billion using the average price of Apple's stock in Q1. This is a huge move considering that Apple used to make up over 50% of Berkshire's portfolio and is now down to 40%.

Who owns the most Apple stock? ›

Vanguard owns the most shares of Apple (AAPL).

Why did Berkshire reduce its Big Apple stake? ›

A large sale is an about-face for Buffett, who is normally tech-phobic but came to view Apple as a consumer goods company with strong pricing power and devoted customers. Some investors, however, have expressed concern that Apple consumed too much of Berkshire's investment portfolio.

Why does Berkshire have so much debt? ›

When it does issue debt, it does so on a long-term, fixed-rate basis. Berkshire's corporate debt load has risen the past couple of years, though, reaching $18.8 billion at the end of 2017, as the company has taken on debt to fund acquisitions. Buffett has been chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway since 1970.

Why is Berkshire so profitable? ›

Berkshire Hathaway's insurance underwriting operations played a crucial role in its profitability, providing $5.4 billion in operating earnings compared to a modest loss the previous year. Buffett's property and casualty businesses benefited from higher underwriting premiums and lower realized payouts from claims.

When did Buffett invest in Apple? ›

Berkshire Hathaway bought its first Apple (NASDAQ: AAPL) shares in 2016, but it has been selling the stock lately.

What company has a moat? ›

Wide Moat Stocks
SymbolCompany NameReturn On Capital
MAMASTERCARD INC117.6%
ADPAUTOMATIC DATA PROCESSING INC87.0%
ITWILLINOIS TOOL WORKS INC.79.9%
PAYXPAYCHEX INC73.1%
26 more rows

Where does Apple make all its money? ›

Diversified revenue streams: Apple generates revenue from a variety of different sources, including iPhone sales, iPad sales, Mac sales, as well as services like the App Store, Apple Music, and iCloud. This diversification helps to minimise risk and ensure a steady stream of income for the company.

Where is Apple most successful? ›

U.S.: Apple's biggest market

Although international sales have a growing share of Apple's total revenue, the U.S. still counts for over 41 percent of Apple's net sales.

What percentage of Coca-Cola does Berkshire Hathaway own? ›

The Berkshire Hathaway portfolio
CompanyShares heldPercent of portfolio
Apple (AAPL)789,368,45040.81%
Bank of America (BAC)1,032,852,00611.81%
American Express (AXP)151,610,70010.41%
Coca-Cola (KO)400,000,0007.38%
37 more rows

What was the cheapest Apple stock ever? ›

The lowest closing price for Apple (AAPL) all-time was $0.04, on July 8, 1982. The latest price is $190.10.

How much dividend buffett paid from Apple? ›

The 790 million shares of Apple stock that Buffett and Berkshire now own would provide a $198 million quarterly dividend payment after the Apple hike, compared with the roughly $190 million quarterly it would have seen if Apple hadn't hiked the dividend.

Is Apple stock a buy or hold? ›

Apple's analyst rating consensus is a Moderate Buy. This is based on the ratings of 32 Wall Streets Analysts.

Is Berkshire still buying Apple? ›

Berkshire's stake in Apple fell by 22% to $135.4 billion as of March 31 from $174.3 billion at the end of 2023, even as the iPhone maker's share price fell just 11%. The conglomerate appears to have sold about 115 million shares, or 13% of its holdings in the quarter.

What does Warren Buffett think about Tesla stock? ›

"We only swing at pitches we like," Buffett has said.

What percentage of Buffett's portfolio is Apple? ›

One thing that hasn't changed, however, is Buffett's preference for maintaining a highly concentrated portfolio. Excluding the holding company's Japanese brokerage stocks, Apple accounts for more than 40% of Berkshire's equity portfolio.

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